IJBFC Chat - April 3, 2005
(Name of message originator in <> brackets at the beginning of each line; lines starting with > are originated by Laura Leff)
<Greg> Hi Maxwell & Kay
> Hello again, folks!
<Michael> Hi Laura
<Kay Lhota> Hi Laura
[Sun Apr 03 15:57:34 GMT-08:00 2005] _bill:
<Kay Lhota> and thank you for the book-- arrived in the mail yesterday
<Maxwell> You can hear him use the Woody Woodpecker laugh in a couple of WB cartoons as an early Bugs Bunny and early Daffy Duck.
<Maxwell> Hi Laura
<Greg> And hi to our esteemed President!
> Hey _bill, how's it going?
<Michael> yeah now that I think about it... you're right
<Kay Lhota> yes, and he used it for Norman Krasna on the JB show
> Maxwell - Mel Blanc?
<_bill> splendid, thanks
<Michael> or the car?
> Hi Greg!
<Maxwell> Or both?
<Kay Lhota> I kind of started things talking about Mel Blanc
<Maxwell> Which happens to be one of my favorite topics.
<Kay Lhota> I met him in 1984 when he was doing a College lecture
<Michael> am wondering.... why was Phil left in Hollywood?
> Hey check out the Themes on the new Volano...looks like the Jell-O flavors
[Sun Apr 03 15:59:22 GMT-08:00 2005] Steve - "shimp":
> Kay - No problem...happy to have the conversation already kicked off!
<Kay Lhota> how do you check out the themes?
<Maxwell> BTW Laura, I was able to access my email and did get the attachment.
> Michael - Probably because it was too expensive to bring the whole band.
<Michael> Hi Steve and _bill
<Steve - "shimp"> Hi folks!
<Kay Lhota> Hi steve
> Maxwell - Great! Glad that worked out.
<Greg> Last summer I attended an antique auto show and got to see a real live Maxwell up close and in person!
<Maxwell> Hey Shimp
<Greg> Hi Steve, Hi Shimp
<Steve - "shimp"> I've seen a Maxwell or two, they don't sound like Mel!
<Kay Lhota> wow-- that would have been interesting. I saw one of Jack Benny's Maxwells and Universal in Feb of 1970
<Steve - "shimp"> Greg - just one schizophrenic us here
<Maxwell> <Decides to go full screen with this window because he can't keep up.
<Greg> lol, this one was parked so I couldn't tell!
> I sat in one of Jack's Maxwells...
<Steve - "shimp"> Did he ever actually own one?
<Kay Lhota> <sigh> oh cool, Laura!
<Michael> it would be hilarious if someone fixed up some sort of FX so if you started up one of those Maxwells it WOULD sound
> Steve - Not personally. But the studios/networks did.
<Greg> ah I see, a multi monikered member
<Steve - "shimp"> Gotcha.
> Where are Larry and Moe?
<Maxwell> I vaguely remembering seeing him in a Maxwell on his TV show.
<Maxwell> Now cut that out!
<Michael> if you ever see Buck Benny Rides Again... I think you'll see him in his Maxwell
<Kay Lhota> I love that movie!
<Maxwell> Haven't seen it in years.
> Maxwell - That was probably the one I sat in.
<Maxwell> Most likely.
<Kay Lhota> I got a nice tape of it when it was on AMC about 12 years ago.
<Michael> me too
<Michael> and now the tape is worn out almost
<Greg> it's a hoot to actually see Mel Blanc do the sound of the Maxwell starting. He did it on the Tonight Show with Jack at his
side in 1974
> If you go to the Photo gallery, look in Television and you'll see some photos I got out of UCLA of Jack in the Maxwell.
<Kay Lhota> His facial expressions on a lot of his voices are a hoot
<Maxwell> I must have seen that because I remember it. (Blanc on Carson.)
<Michael> how long was Jack Laughing Greg?
> Greg - Not to get your hopes up, but that may show up in the video library one of these days.
<Greg> yes! No wonder the studio audiences would roar with laughter whenever he did that sound effect
<Kay Lhota> (crossing my fingers for the library)
<Michael> would love to at least see the actual clip... like watching Don & Eddie dancing :)
<Steve - "shimp"> Mel gets really agitated - love the story 'bout how he was afraid to do the maxwell one day when he had
<Greg> lol, not as long as when Mel did the english horse bit!
> Don't we have Buck Benny in the video library?
<Michael> I meant the Carson bit...
<Kay Lhota> I found an ancient tape I made of "Meanest Man In the World"
[Sun Apr 03 16:04:53 GMT-08:00 2005] Barbara:
> OK we're taking bets...how many people will show up an hour late tonight?
> Hi Barbara!
<Kay Lhota> I'm sure I hadn't seen it in over 17 years
<Barbara> Hello everybody!
<Kay Lhota> Hi Barbara
<Michael> Hi Barbara
<Greg> "aw haw"...Jack was pounding Johnny's desk!
<Steve - "shimp"> Hi Barbara!
<Greg> Hi Barbara
<Maxwell> The other Blanc sound that I remember that was a hoot seeing him was the sound he used to do as a trumpet for
Marvin the Martian.
<Maxwell> Hi Barbara
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Mel also did the English horse on Jack's TV show...one of the amateur shows.
<Barbara> Thanks for all the hi's.
<Michael> I've got one of Jack's TV shows where Mel does his Electric Organ....
<Maxwell> That's the one.
<Michael> yeah Laura
> Ee ee en ee ee en...
<Michael> Mr Gropff!
<Michael> (wipes off screen)
<Maxwell> That was a amateur show, too, iirc.
> Michael - Ah yes, I'd forgotten about that.
> Barbara - The topic is Mel Blanc
<Steve - "shimp"> Too much brilliance, drawing a blanc here
<Barbara> Okay. I have his book.
[Sun Apr 03 16:07:17 GMT-08:00 2005] Scott in KC: KCAgape
<Steve - "shimp"> Great book! I need a new copy, if it's in good shape it is going for some bucks on amazon
<Kay Lhota> I was saying before you came in that I heard him last week in an MGM cartoon. I recognized his circa 1940 hiccups
<Maxwell> Hi Scott!
<Michael> Hi Scott
> Hi Scott!
<Maxwell> And it just took off from there.
<Scott in KC> Hi everyone! Long time, no chat.
<Barbara> There's a picture in the book of Jack trying to water ski.
<Steve - "shimp"> Hi Scott
> Kay - I'll be! I guess that was before he was exclusive with WB.
<Michael> that's what I thought
<Greg> Hi Scott
<Kay Lhota> yes, he was in many MGM, Columbia, and Lantz cartoons
<Kay Lhota> he became exclusive to WB around 1944
<Barbara> Was he in the show for this month?
<Kay Lhota> no
<Michael> actually no
> Mel had a story about trying to break into cartoon voiceovers, but there was always some guy who told him they didn't need
<Steve - "shimp"> Nope, too early
> Finally this guy died.
> And that was Mel's opening.
> No, but the cast on this show is HUGE.
<Kay Lhota> yes, I think that was their sound man, Norman Spencer.
<Greg> Jack said "That's a terrible thing to laugh at, some guy dying"
<Michael> Barbara... this was Rochester's Debut...
<Scott in KC> Are you saying, Laura, That's All Folks?
<Barbara> Yes, it was good to hear him for the first time.
> Scott - No, too early to do that!
<Greg> (when Mel told that story on Carson in '74)
> I always thought the redcap in the first half was also Rochester, but it's not.
<Steve - "shimp"> Roch's voice definitely seemed different.
<Michael> it wasn't????
<Michael> it sure sounded like him
<Steve - "shimp"> Which makes you think how flexible that rasp really was!
<Maxwell> Sounded like him to me.
<Steve - "shimp"> Don't think the first porter was Eddie either.
> Michael - Nope. The name of the actor is Nelson...I'm sure not Frank...but when you really listen and think about it, you hear
<Barbara> I thought he sounded pretty much the same. But the first porter was someone else.
<Michael> ok... will have to check it out later...
<Kay Lhota> there are so many voices on that episode that you really have to listen closely.
> If you don't have a copy of 39 Forever and want an ID on any cast member, let me know.
<Kay Lhota> I recognized Verna Felton right away.
> And here's a pop quiz...
<Maxwell> So did I.
> Who played the program salesman?
<Scott in KC> Who played Rochester's friend Roy? Did he have other radio roles? He seemed to be a quasi regular on Jack
<Steve - "shimp"> As a pushy stage mom! foreshadowing
<Michael> did anyone else half expect to hear Anaheim Azusa and Cuck-amonga?
<Kay Lhota> Ed Beloin?
<Maxwell> Program salesman?
> Steve - She even played Phil Harris' mother at one point a couple months earlier.
<Steve - "shimp"> Early train departure gags too!
> kay - Nope.
<Maxwell> OH, never mind.
<Kay Lhota> darn
<Greg> what year did Rochester suffer his stroke? The effects of it are evident on the 1969 Jack Benny's New Look Special
<Kay Lhota> my book is in the other room, and this isn't an open book quiz anyway
> Greg - That was when they were doing the Shower of Stars Jack's 40th birthday
<Steve - "shimp"> Verna is so funny, also Gracie Allen's mom on B&A
> Any gueses on the program salesman?
<Greg> oh I see
<Barbara> I was telling Laura recently that Rochester's beautiful home is now a haven for pedophiles.
<Michael> who played Millicent?
<Scott in KC> Steve was Jack's PR guy, right?
<Steve - "shimp"> I dunno the program guy
<Steve - "shimp"> Huh?
<Maxwell> Verna was also a regular on the December Bride TV series. That's where I first remember her.
> Greg - 1958...oh no, I take that back. That was his heart attack.
> Scott - Who, Steve Bradley?
<Greg> Did anyone see the live auction on eBay of some of Jack's personal effects from the collection of Eddie Villery? It was
sometime last week.
> The program guy WAS................
> Hilliard Marks.
<Scott in KC> Yes, Laura. He was a fast talking guy.
> Greg - Missed that one.
<Greg> Ah, that makes sense, as he did shows with Jack in the early 60's and was fine
> Scott - Yup. But he started in 1944 or 45.
<Steve - "shimp"> Ah, Hickey! Did he do many other characters?
> Steve - Not very often. But once in a while he'd do a very minor character like this.
<Steve - "shimp"> Nice, didn't know what he sounded like.
> Harry Baldwin was the first conductor with something like one line.
<Greg> there were some good things, like Jack's script for "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Jack Benny But Were
Afraid To Ask". The lots opening bids were like $500 and $600
<Scott in KC> Laura...I am courious what ever became of Mr. Billingsley, his weird border?
<Michael> I think he went down to the Vault & got eaten by an alligator!
> Scott - Well, that was played by Ed Beloin. So do you mean in "real life" or the character on the show?
<Scott in KC> With the gas man?????
<Maxwell> Maybe he was up in the attic with Kenny Baker.
<Kay Lhota> yes, he was mentioned in 1944 on the Groucho episode, and Ed Beloin would have left by then
<Scott in KC> Both, Laura.
> Greg - Man! I got a script of Jack Benny's New Look for something like $10.
> Kay - Ed didn't disappear completely when the new writers took over. He was looking into movie writing, and I think
(underscore think) he may have stayed on to train the new writers.
<Greg> Good deal! There were things like Jack's Friars club membership card, etc. I can't recall everything, but it wasn't worth
<Kay Lhota> Oh, I didn't know that! That's nice!
<Scott in KC> Laura...Are you "Thinking it over"?
> Scott - Well, as I mentioned, Ed Beloin wanted to go into movie writing (and Bill Morrow was going into the military)
<Kay Lhota> Ed Beloin is very funny.
> Greg - Wasn't vj7 bidding on anything, was it?
[Sun Apr 03 16:16:53 GMT-08:00 2005] Ellis M. Ef'Tee:
<Michael> Hi Ellis
> Hi Ellis!
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Hello
<Greg> couldn't tell you who bid on it Laura, I just happened to catch it while surfing the listings
<Steve - "shimp"> Howdy Ellis.
<Kay Lhota> Hi Ellis
<Maxwell> Hi-ya Lucky
<Greg> Hi Ellis
<Scott in KC> Hi Ellis!
> For the character, they just stopped talking about him, much like Carmichael or Trudy the ostrich
<Barbara> Where are you from, Ellis?
[Sun Apr 03 16:17:42 GMT-08:00 2005] Buddy: Jack fan
> Hi Buddy!
<Michael> Hi Buddy
<Maxwell> Hi Buddy
[Sun Apr 03 16:17:52 GMT-08:00 2005] Mike Amo: J-E-L-L---Oooooo!
<Steve - "shimp"> Buddy, welcome!
<Buddy> Hi everyone
<Maxwell> Hi Mike
<Greg> Hi Buddy
<Scott in KC> Laura, did Jack's camel have a name....Dare I write the word "camel"?
<Michael> Hi Mike Amo
> It's an ambush!
> Hi Mike! How's Ann? I "corrected" her name finally.
<Greg> Hi Mike A.
<Michael> Scott... you mean Ameican Tobacco would let Jack have a CAMEL???
<Buddy> This is my first Jack chat
<Maxwell> Mine, too.
<Greg> Welcome aboard Buddy
> Scott - *staring at ceiling* I don't recall ever hearing one. But I may have forgotten it.
<Kay Lhota> no, the Camel arrived during the Grape Nuts era
<Barbara> I hope it's not the last.
> Buddy - Welcome in...it's a big crowd tonight.
> Michael - This was in Grape Nuts days.
<Michael> Welcome aboard Buddy
<Scott in KC> I listened to an episode recently and he had a camel shipped to him....Grape Nuts was the sponsor then.
<Michael> and Maxwell
> The camel was long gone before Luckies.
<Scott in KC> Yes, did it have a name?
> So what else did people think about tonight's show?
<Michael> I would think so.... GW Hill would have had a fit and a half
<Buddy> I just recently purchased 901 episodes on Ebay...is that all of them?
> Scott - Not that I recall.
<Kay Lhota> it's a nice episode. A lot of action going on during it.
<Michael> I thought it was rather fun all things considered
<Steve - "shimp"> Good gags! 'Waiting Room, New Mexico" had me chuckling
> Buddy - It won't be 901 episodes of just the Jack Benny program. You'll have many separate appearances there.
<Maxwell> Fastest cross-country train ride in history!
<Kay Lhota> I've listened to it many times, and there is so much to listen to.
<Barbara> It was nice to hear Phil near the end.
> Who's the opening announcer? I think it's Ken Carpenter.
<Michael> soooo does Alberqueque exist or not???
<Buddy> Yeah, it is Guest appearances and such
<Maxwell> Yes, it is Ken Carpenter.
<Kay Lhota> Is it?
<Steve - "shimp"> There you go again, Michael!
<Michael> it sure wasn't Don Wilson
<Maxwell> I'd know his voic anywhere.
<Maxwell> Or his voice.
[Sun Apr 03 16:21:25 GMT-08:00 2005] Mike Amo: J-E-L-L---Ooooo!
<Kay Lhota> well, we'll take your word for it!
> Maxwell - I didn't know you were so personal with him...
<Kay Lhota> he did have a distinctive voice.
> There was no credit for the role in Jack's script, just "announcer". So I couldn't be sure.
<Maxwell> No, I just remember his voice.
[Sun Apr 03 16:21:57 GMT-08:00 2005] Alex Buck: Fan from KC
<Maxwell> Pencil it in.
<Buddy> Which episode are you guys discussing?
<Kay Lhota> I remember hearing him on the Al Jolson Kraft Music Hall and the Bing Crosby shows
<Maxwell> Hi Alex
> BTW, "landsman" (as in "pale-faced landsman") is Yiddish for countryman or comrade.
<Alex Buck> Hello
<Steve - "shimp"> Rochester's first appearance
<Mike Amo> JELLO again folks...I missed the train
<Michael> Hi Alex
> Hi Alex!
<Steve - "shimp"> March 28, 1937?
> maxwell - I just did.
<Greg> and Charlie McCarthy and The Great Gildersleeve...
<Kay Lhota> Easter Sunday, 1937
<Scott in KC> Hi neighbor Alex!
<Alex Buck> Haven't been able to join up with you all for awhile now
> Welcome back, Alex!
<Greg> Hi Alex
> Not often that we have this many people in the room!
<Steve - "shimp"> Hi Alex
<Mike Amo> Hi Alex, all
<Kay Lhota> Hi Alex
<Alex Buck> We're expecting company in awhile so I'll see how long I can stick around
<Alex Buck> What all have i missed?
> Alex - Play the show for discussion for them. they can join in.
<Scott in KC> More the merrier, Laura. :)
<Kay Lhota> I have a friend that asked to come visit me tonight, and as usual, she's late
> Scott - Absolutely.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Maybe it's because there's no Super Bowl or Oscar's tonight
> So I have to ask it...what did people think about the Stepin Fetchit reference from Rochester?
> Ellis - You may well be right.
<Steve - "shimp"> Ew.
<Alex Buck> so did anyone pick up any similarities between Rochester in tonight's show and an Amos & Andy routine
<Kay Lhota> my friend that's late is a Fred Allen buff. She also grew up in Dorchester, MA
<Steve - "shimp"> One of those bad moments, LL
<Greg> or maybe we all need a diversion from the media saturation on the Pope's passing. Sad times.
<Maxwell> I've heard the episode before, but it still bothers me...2000s sensibilities applied to a 1937 show.
<Michael> yeah Alex... now that you mention it...
> Kay - Oh, then she's not allowed.
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<Greg> I wonder if Jack ever had an audience with a Pope?
> Maxwell - Yeah. Sometimes there will be lines like that which make me cringe.
<Alex Buck> you think its saturated now, wait until they get around to electing the new one
<Scott in KC> Greg, and the Terri Schiavo case, too.
<Kay Lhota> I keep hoping she'll visit me so that I can play for her some of the many Fred Allen show take offs that they did on
the JB show
> Greg - Probably not this Pope.
<Greg> yes, that too Scott
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Stepin' Fetchit. I think he was the guy in one of the Harold Lloyd movies, Feet First
<Buddy> Jack was Jewish but was he practicing?
<Greg> LOL! Good one Laura!
<Kay Lhota> No, that was Willie Best in "Feet First"
<Barbara> Jack never had an audience with the Pope, but he did have Billy Graham on once.
> Buddy - No, he was already pretty good at it. *RIMSHOT*
<Maxwell> Fetchit was in a couple of Will Rogers' talkies.
<Buddy> Which episode?
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Willie played "Charcoal"?
<Greg> Silly me, of course, Jack was Jewish. Sorry.
> Barbara - Good point.
<Kay Lhota> You can also see Willie Best in the Bob Hope movie "the Ghost Breakers"
<Scott in KC> Did a Pope ever have an audience with Jack you should ask.
<Steve - "shimp"> Willie Best had an even worse moniker, "Sleep N Eat" (eye roll)
<Michael> Maxwell which ones?
<Maxwell> IIRC he was in a lot of movies for Fox.
<Buddy> Which episode was Billy Grahm on?
> Buddy - 9/24/63
<Alex Buck> i remember seeing the Grahm TV appearance. I remember thinking it was a bit flat
<Maxwell> Good question. Unfortunately, I can't think of any titles offhand.
<Greg> Wasn't Billy Grahm on in 1964?
<Mike Amo> I didn't know that, LL...what did Graham do in it?
<Buddy> I havent seen but a couple of the TV episodes
> Jack was Jewish, but he didn't go to shul or observe the High Holidays. They even celebrated Christmas, but not as a religious
<Alex Buck> seems like Jack would do a usual joke and then look over to Grahm for approval which most of the time he didn't
> Mike - Haven't seen it, sorry to say. Yet.
> Buddy - Need to remedy that. We have a lot in the video library now.
<Buddy> Dennis day used to sing Christian Christmas hymns on the show
<Steve - "shimp"> Video library is bursting at the seams!
<Mike Amo> lol, I probably saw it but it would have been 41-1/2 years ago
<Scott in KC> Mary even sang "Easter Parade."
> Steve - We've got bits and bytes all over the place...
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Yikes
<Greg> Yes, Buddy (and others) you all need to get those Benny Special Collections in the video library. You get a ton of great
<Maxwell> In those days, you'd never know there was any religion practiced in the USA other than Christianity.
> LOL...get all my salespeople here...
<Steve - "shimp"> Groan! LL
> Maxwell - Unless you lived in NYC.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I sent in a tape last month with a bunch of stuff on it.
<Maxwell> I'm speaking mainly about radio/TV.
<Buddy> I have been looking at the DVD titles on the website
> Ellis - Your first name wouldn't start with "P", would it?
<Greg> lol, I got 'em all from you Laura, and can't say enough good things about them, or for your fast, efficient service!
<Steve - "shimp"> Maxwell, you can tell now? (slaps hand for getting political)
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Yes, it starts with P
> Greg - Ah right! You had that monster order! Whew!
<Maxwell> Well, you hear references to other things now on the news.
<Greg> that was I!
> Greg - My DVD burner is still panting.
<Mike Amo> lol
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Might be time for a new burner.
<Kay Lhota> I had guessed that the yiddish Indian was Benny Rubin, but I was wrong. It was Patsy Flick.
> Ellis - Ah, I just watched your tape a couple nights ago and was going to drop you a note of thanks.
<Greg> I'm still enjoying everything...Thank you for offering this great material to members!
<Buddy> I have been to see Jack Benny's house in Cali.
> Kay - Right. Pat C. Flick was doing the Yiddishkeit characters on the West Coast while Sam Hearn was still in New York.
<Buddy> Anyone else?
> Buddy - Which one? Roxbury?
<Alex Buck> Well, that didn't take long. I'll be sure to read the transcript tomorrow at work. Catch up with you all next month.
<Buddy> That is the only one Im aware of
> Greg - Thanks for supporting the library! That's what we're here for.
<Kay Lhota> Yes, he was brilliant in the "Buck Benny's" as "Cactus Face Elmer"
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Alex
<Mike Amo> Bye Alex!
> Buddy - There were a few.
> Have fun, Alex!
<Kay Lhota> bye Alex
<Maxwell> Bye Alex
<Scott in KC> Buddy, did the owners let you in?
> Kay - He also did the Yiddish-speaking bartender.
<Buddy> I became interested in Jack Benny because he lived next door to Lucille Ball
<Scott in KC> Bye Akex
<Greg> bye Alex
<Buddy> No, it was under major renovation when I went by
[Sun Apr 03 16:32:33 GMT-08:00 2005] Melanie:
<Kay Lhota> well, the bartender might have been "Cactus Face" in disguise
<Steve - "shimp"> Buddy have you seen the Here's Lucy DVD sets?
<Maxwell> Hi Melanie
> I took copies of Jack's scripts from that particular scene because we couldn't figure out the Spanish Jack was speaking, or the
Yiddish Flick was speaking.
<Kay Lhota> LOL Laura
> Buddy - It has been for a while.
> Barbara - Is it still?
<Steve - "shimp"> Lucie Arnaz & Desi Jr have some good anecdotes on that about Jack
<Michael> I need to head off as well... see you all in the future
<Maxwell> Bye Michael
> Take care, Michael.
<Buddy> I went back in 2002
<Kay Lhota> bye Michael
<Scott in KC> Steve...Can you share any?
<Greg> bye Michael
<Kay Lhota> please, I love hearing those stories.
<Scott in KC> Bye Michael.
<Steve - "shimp"> Yeah, they talk about "uncle Jack" telling Desi Jr to stop playing the drums so loud
<Steve - "shimp"> And coming over, fiddling for Lucy, accepting $20 from Gary Morton, and leaving without saying a word
<Buddy> Oh no, I havent seen the "Here's Lucy" DVDs
> And then the Colmans wanted Jack not to play the violin so loud
<Kay Lhota> oh, they are wonderful episodes
<Steve - "shimp"> Only to be locked out of the house by Mary, and while he is pounding the door - a tour bus comes by
<Kay Lhota> the 2nd Jack Benny show on the DVD set is classic
> Steve - And he's dressed as a gypsy
<Scott in KC> I heard a tour bus of people did not know Jack, they thought he was a gardener or something....Until they realized
it was The Man.
<Steve - "shimp"> so he goes up and plays Love in Bloom for them!
[Sun Apr 03 16:34:53 GMT-08:00 2005] Pam D.: email@example.com
<Buddy> I love to hear George Burns talk about his and Jack'
> Hi Pam!
<Buddy> s relationship.
<Maxwell> Hi Pam
<Kay Lhota> it's the one where Lucy plays the women in JAck's life as he dictates his autobio
<Pam D.> Greetings all
<Steve - "shimp"> The Mary Voice over is kinda creepy in that though, Kay!
<Buddy> Hi Pam
<Scott in KC> Hi Pam!
<Kay Lhota> yes, it's deep and smokey
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> From Smoking Lucky's?
<Steve - "shimp"> She can't quite bring up the old Mary for the show, it's a bit sad.
> Ellis - Nope...that wasn't her brand.
<Steve - "shimp"> Coupled with Lucy's animated performance, it's weird.
<Steve - "shimp"> Parliaments, LL?
> Steve - Very good, I think you're right.
> They even put it in the American Tobacco contract that she could smoke whatever brand she wanted.
<Scott in KC> Laura...This is hard to explain, but how did the studio audience respond when all they got was a recording of
Mary "talking" to the other cast, after she did not want to be on the air?
> Scott - Jeanette Eyemann (script secretary), Joan, or an actress would stand in for Mary.
<Kay Lhota> The audiences were kind about it, weren't they?
<Steve - "shimp"> I understood she dubbed after the show, to match lines - they never heard Mary, right?
> Scott - There are recordings of the last show pre and post edit, so with and without Mary's voice. It's strange.
> Steve - Right. They heard whoever was playing the role.
<Scott in KC> Then there are pauses?
<Buddy> Why didn't Mary want to be on the air?
<Maxwell> Stage fright.
<Scott in KC> Oh...Duh...another voice.
> Sometimes the stand-in would blow the line, and it would get a big laugh and Mary would have to blow the line.
<Steve - "shimp"> I have to say, I can't tell in most of them. It's only that last show where it is super noticeable to me.
<Scott in KC> Chees Weez?
<Maxwell> Which reminds me Laura, so I don't have to bug you on the message boards...Do you know offhand how many
episodes Mary made for TV?
<Kay Lhota> Beyond stage fright. More like clinical anxiety.
<Pam D.> I listen to a lot of the radio shows and her voice matured quite a bit over the years.
> Steve - Yes, I don't think it happened as often as they claimed
> Kay - Coupled with hypoglycemia
<Kay Lhota> yes
<Melanie> I didn't really care for her voice in the show for tonight.
> Maxwell - Offhand, no. But she was only in filmed shows, no live ones.
<Steve - "shimp"> Agreed. Hearing Mary tell it she stopped in '48 or something, but clearly there are photos
and episodes where she had to be there.
<Scott in KC> When Mary laughed, then was it genuine, or nervousness?
> Barbara can vouch for that.
<Greg> You all need to see Jack's very first TV show from 10/28/50. It's a new addition to the video library.
<Steve - "shimp"> She was in a lot of them around '57-58
> Scott - Depends. Sometimes scripted, sometimes nervous, sometimes genuine.
<Barbara> As I told Laura once, I watched many shows live from 1951-56 and never saw anyone replace Mary. She wasn't on
every show, tho.
> Argh...Can someone please grab the last screen page of lines and E-mail them to me? Thanks.
<Scott in KC> She did have a cute giggle.
<Greg> Don, Rochester, Mr. Kitzel, Mel Blanc, The Sportsman Quartet are all on the show. Too bad Phil Harris didn't appear.
> Steve - You sure? I think of her mainly in 54-56.
> Greg - Did you get a copy of "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know" special?
<Greg> Dinah Shore guested. Ironically, she also guested on Jack's last special in 1974
<Buddy> Did Phil Harris leave because of bad blood or was it just because he got his own show?
<Steve - "shimp"> Maybe I'm a bit off. But I remember in George Burns' book he claimed she "retired" following Gracie's
<Greg> I already have that one, Laura. My copy has a time code on the screen, though
> Buddy - Ah...now THERE'S a question.
[Sun Apr 03 16:42:04 GMT-08:00 2005] ReallyMaxwell: firstname.lastname@example.org
> Greg - So you've seen Phil with Jack on that one.
<Buddy> Does anyone have a theory or the truth?
> Hi Maxwell Jr.
<ReallyMaxwell> That wasn't fun...Chat Client thinks I'm still here.
> Buddy - Several of them
<Barbara> Didn't you think there was a bit of a money problem, Laura?
<Scott in KC> Laura, speaking of Mr. Kitzel...I have been e-mailing his (Atre Aurerbach's) niece. She wants to send me some
pics of him. If I get them, I can send them on to you. Do you want them?
<Greg> yes, that's hilarious...the Doo Wah Ditty bit!
<Kay Lhota> all the stories have a mixture of truth and myth, Laura?
<Buddy> Well, I havent heard any of them.
<Pam D.> Didn't Barbara Stanwick stand in for her on occasion ?
<Greg> An almost exact recreation of the classic segment from radio in 1948
> Scott - Yes, please!
> Kay - Something like that...
<Kay Lhota> when Mary was sick. Alice Faye did for her, too.
<Scott in KC> OK, will do. My pleasure.
> Pam - Yes, and Alice Faye. And even Babe a time or two.
<Steve - "shimp"> Babe had a great voice!
<Kay Lhota> Hopefully not the kind of bad feelings that stayed bad for evermore.
> Sorry, too many topics going on at once and I can't get back to Phil's departure.
<Steve - "shimp"> I wish she did more of the program as herself.
<Scott in KC> Was Babe really a babe?
<Buddy> I can wait for my turn - LOL
> Phil himself said that he and Alice wanted to slow down and have more of a family life
<Buddy> That sounds like PR
<Barbara> Joan said she got along much better with her than she did her mother.
<Scott in KC> Philsy, slow down?
> Scott - The family says that they always considered her to be prettier than Mary!
<Steve - "shimp"> I've always wanted to see a pic of Babe!
> Buddy - Agreed.
> Steve - I published one some years ago, but I need to do it again.
> So, Al Gordon gave an interesting new story at the 39 Forever convention.
<Buddy> I know that Kenny Baker left because of financial issues. But I am interested in knowing why Phil left.
<Scott in KC> The voice of Babe sounds masuline. Kinda like that comic character in Geech, Nadine.
<Scott in KC> masculine*
> Basically, Jack had gotten a few million in the business dealings that moved him to CBS
> (I'll spare you the endless details of that)
> And there was a big tax case that went all the way to the Supreme Court.
> Jack won.
> Suffice it to say.
> And supposedly, some members of the cast felt entitled to a portion of that money.
<Scott in KC> Of course he did, Laura.
<Buddy> I dont know of any of this...is this in his book?
<Scott in KC> :)
> Al says that Phil was one of them.
> Buddy - I've only heard this version from Al Gordon in person.
<Barbara> Maybe Phil thought he should have gotten some of that money.
> Al says that when Phil wouldn't get a slice of the money, he left.
<Steve - "shimp"> So is Phil generally considered to be the guy Josefberg gives a pseudonym to in his book?
<Steve - "shimp"> Who was on the outs with Jack for a long time?
<Buddy> How wealthy was Jack?
> But I need to recheck the court date on the ruling to see if it makes sense with Phil's departure.
<Greg> it must've been a long drawn out court battle, because Jack moved to CBS in 1949 and Phil left the show in 1952
> Steve - No. Phil was at the funeral. And he spoke highly of Jack when I interviewed him.
> Buddy - Not nearly as much as you'd think.
> Greg - Like I said, it was appealed all the way to the Supreme Court.
<Barbara> With Mary's spending, it's a wonder he had anything left.
<Steve - "shimp"> That's good! I'd hate to think they were on the outs when Jack died.
<Scott in KC> It is sad how money affects people.
> Barbara - And I think that's why the estate was much smaller than most would have guessed.
<Buddy> I heard Phil Harris on the Jack benny Roast in 1970 and it seemed like they were friends
<Barbara> You're right, Laura. He also supported a number of relatives.
> I have the exact numbers, but Joan previously asked me not to publish them. I can understand that, because the estate
finances are now her finances.
<Pam D.> Jack was a guest on Phil's show, but I don't know the time line of that
<Kay Lhota> I'm sure they were friends, ultimately.
<Steve - "shimp"> Phil also came back for at least one TV show in '58
<ReallyMaxwell> Wow, I finally left!
<Steve - "shimp"> I remember it being good.
<Greg> Phil also guested on that 1971 "everything you ever wanted to know...." special that Laura talked about earlier
<Scott in KC> How is Joan Benny these days, Laura? Beautiful as ever?
[Sun Apr 03 16:50:05 GMT-08:00 2005] Barbara:
> Scott - Absolutely. She's doing very well.
<Buddy> How old is she?
<Kay Lhota> Glad to hear that. She's a classy lady.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> 39
<Steve - "shimp"> Laura, does the estate own the rights to the specials?
<Scott in KC> Tell her I want to marry her! :)
> Buddy - She's going to be 71 this summer.
<Kay Lhota> She must be 71 this year
<Steve - "shimp"> Or MCA?
> Steve - Yes.
<ReallyMaxwell> Terrible question to ask about a woman, Buddy!
> Scott - Forward me a love letter on E-mail and I'll send it to her.
<Steve - "shimp"> Any interest in commercial releases of those?
<Greg> Is there any progress with the family regarding the official release of any of Jack's 1965-74 NBC tv specials?
<Kay Lhota> Don't worry. We should look half as good at that age
> Steve - MCA just has some of the shows.
<Buddy> She's not here...so I believe it's okay. :)
> Steve - One person has been trying to sell them for years, but no takers.
<Scott in KC> ReallyMaxwell...Terrible question to ask Jack Benny, too. :)
<Steve - "shimp"> Stinkers!
> Greg - See comment to Steve.
<Kay Lhota> idiots! They have a natural audience for specials that have been unseen since their network runs!
[Sun Apr 03 16:51:53 GMT-08:00 2005] Walt:
<Buddy> Well folks, I have to rejoin my family. I really enjoyed chatting with some fellow Jack fans. I hope to do it again soon!
<ReallyMaxwell> Speaking of which, does anybody remember an episode of the Danny Thomas Show in which Jack guest
<Kay Lhota> goodnight Buddy
<ReallyMaxwell> By Buddy
<Walt> I have returned!!! :)
> I wish that they'd release those in the informercial way like the Carson stuff and Red Skelton and Dean Martin.
<ReallyMaxwell> or bye
<Scott in KC> Take care, Buddy.
> Have fun, Buddy!
<Greg> Laura- you should have them get in touch with the Sinatra family attorney. I'm sure, because of Frank's appearance,
they'd be interested in releasing the 20th anniversary show.
> Maxwell - That Old Devil Jack benny?
<Kay Lhota> It's been so long since I saw any Danny Thomas shows
<Steve - "shimp"> It is unthinkable there isn't an audience for them.
<Steve - "shimp"> Skelton doesn't have a "syndication" audience buildup either.
> Greg - Someone came up with that idea a while back, but it didn't go anywhere unfortunately.
<Greg> I can put you in touch with the person in charge of licensing for the Sinatra family estate
<ReallyMaxwell> I remember at the end he asks Rusty, "How old do you think I am?"
> Greg - Yes, please. Just drop me an E-mail.
<ReallyMaxwell> And Rusty answers, "64!"
<ReallyMaxwell> Which I think was his actual age at the time.
<Greg> ok, will do Laura
> maxwell - Must have been 1958.
<Scott in KC> 1958 was the year Jack Benny Junior High opened, I think.
<ReallyMaxwell> I really have no idea what year it was. I just remember that punchline.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> What's the name of their Mascot?
<Scott in KC> Ellis...the 39ers
<Walt> The Parrot?
<ReallyMaxwell> By all rights it should be Carmichael.
<Kay Lhota> that's their team
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I thought it might be The Fiddlers
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Scott - That feels too early...
<Scott in KC> I think it is really the 39ers.
<Walt> The Camels!!!
<Scott in KC> The Grape Nuts
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<ReallyMaxwell> I can just hear the cheers for the Jack Benny Jr. High Grape Nuts.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I've been listening to shows the past several weeks where Jack says he's 38
<Scott in KC> Laura, did Jack really wear a wig or was that radio hype?
<Walt> Gimme an N -- Gimme a U -- Gimme a T.....
<Barbara> I believe he was 38 for a number of years. Jack wore a toupee only in movies.
<Scott in KC> My high school's mascot was the Kewpies.
> %$#(%@#$)*%...I can't find this show...
<Steve - "shimp"> Mary, it's me! The propellor blew it off!
<Scott in KC> LOL Steve.
> Scott - What Barbara said. Just a little piece in the front for movies.
<ReallyMaxwell> 39 ended up being the perfect number...just the right amount of vanity.
<Pam D.> Steve ... wasn't that when he flew to New York for his first TV show?
<Greg> Jack said on the David Frost show in 1970 that the football team at JB Junior High in Waukegan were known as the
<Barbara> Jack felt that 40 wasn't funny.
<Steve - "shimp"> Think so, Pam
> AH! 10/22/61. Jack dedicates the JBJHS.
<Scott in KC> Greg, I think you are correct.
<Scott in KC> Thank you, LL!
<ReallyMaxwell> After the 40th birthday bash they gave to the asst. principal where I teach, I'd say Jack was right.
> Greg - And I have that on clothing (e.g., t-shirts, sweatshirts) from the school!
<Greg> I just watched that show today as a matter of fact (David Frost)
> There was also a great column in the Boston Globe begging Jack not to turn 40.
> It is the 39ers.
<Barbara> He never did, did he?
> Barbara - Never did what? Turn 40?
<Scott in KC> If it was the Boston Globe, how come Fred Allen did not beg them TO put it in? :)
<Greg> it got a big laugh from the studio audience when Jack said they were called the 39-ers.
> Barbara - No, Shower of Stars 1958. Jack's 40th Birthday Party.
<Walt> Yes, he turned 40 in the radio years. But reverted back
<ReallyMaxwell> But he never referred himself as being 40 on his show after that Shower of Stars show.
<Scott in KC> I think we all have "reverted back," I have.
<Steve - "shimp"> Usually saved by a Deus Ex Machina call from Florence!
> He turned 40 (twice...1949 and 1954) and both times got a telegram from Florence telling him he was 39.
> Scott - I reverted forward.
<Walt> Ahhh, recycled stories
> Maxwell - You're right, he didn't. It was sort of forgotten then.
> Walt - Are you Walt P. or Walt M.?
<ReallyMaxwell> My memory scares me sometimes.
<Barbara> Laura, have you ever approached Joan about being on the forum?
> Walt - OK, that's what I thought. Thank you.
<Scott in KC> I recall Rochester comment that "Are we a couple of devils?" And Jack wondered if he meant him and Rochester,
and Rochester said, "NO! Me and your sister!"
> Barbara - No, that's just not her thing. Actually wait, I think I did in the early days. But like I said, it's not her thing.
<Barbara> What is her thing?
<Scott in KC> We would LOVE to have her company.
<Kay Lhota> that's okay. As long as she knows we care about her.
> Barbara - Venice.
> Scott - Oh, I know. And she does, too.
<Steve - "shimp"> When Paul Henning died, I saw a Petticoat Junction website
<Scott in KC> <<< Tearing up my love e-mail to Joan Benny. :)
<Greg> Well group I must bid you all a fond farewell. This has been fun. Hope to be back next month!
<Kay Lhota> LOL aww
> Barbara - Yeah. It's her favorite city. I called her for suggestions of places to visit before Dan and I went there.
<Kay Lhota> night Greg
<Steve - "shimp"> And Bea Benaderet's daughter popped in on a chat...
<ReallyMaxwell> So long Greg
> Have a good one, Greg!
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Greg
<Pam D.> Nite Greg
<Kay Lhota> Bea's daughter
<Kay Lhota> wow
<Greg> bye everyone!
> Steve - One of ours?
<Walt> Any chance some of Jack's movies will ever be released? Like Charley's Aunt?
<Steve - "shimp"> Might have some interesting stories re: Jack
<Scott in KC> Bye Greg.
<Steve - "shimp"> Nope, a Petticoat Junction chat
> Steve - OK, whew. I thought I was having amnesia.
<Kay Lhota> gosh, I have never seen "Charley's Aunt" all of the way through
<Barbara> Charley's Aunt is out, isn't it?
> Walt - To Be or Not to Be was just released.
<Scott in KC> Paul Henning was from here! Whoo-hoo! :)
<Steve - "shimp"> I bookmarked the URL somewhere, maybe we can get in contact
> Barbara - Only on our video library.
<Barbara> I have it.
<Kay Lhota> I haven't seen Charley's Aunt since before I had a VCR
> Steve - Love to. Her father was Gene Twombley, I take it?
<Scott in KC> Uncle Joe was from Humansville, MO
<Steve - "shimp"> No, Jack Bannon, Bea's first husband
> Kay - We've got a very good copy. I transferred it myself.
<Pam D.> I got sattelite radio just so I could hear as much of the radio shows as possible. It has been a blessing to me
<Kay Lhota> excellent, Laura.
> Steve - That's what I thought. I didn't recall that Bea and Gene had any children.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Which Satellite, XM or Sirrius
<Walt> "To Be" has been out for years. I mean the ones that haven't
<Steve - "shimp"> She married Twombley later in life...
<Pam D.> XM
> Walt - Slim to none. They're just not that saleable to the studios.
<Steve - "shimp"> and they died only a few days apart.
> Steve - True.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I didn't know XM had a stream of old radio shows
> Steve - Yes, one of the great Hollywood tragic love stories.
<Kay Lhota> I remember when Bea died in 1968
> Ellis - Yes. They contacted me for help in getting the rights to the Benny shows.
<ReallyMaxwell> So do I. Right in the middle of the run of Petticoat Junction.
<Walt> And come of the cr*p that the release IS saleable? Who makes this stuff up?
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Sounds like I need to look into it then
<Pam D.> Yes, they have a 24 hour a day channel. I even got to hear Jack do Suspense
> Pam - Which one?
<Steve - "shimp"> Walt - my sentiments exactly!
<Scott in KC> Bea was Betty Rubble and which Telephone Operator, or Glays Zybissco (?)?
> Walt - Tell me about it.
<Scott in KC> Gladys*
<Steve - "shimp"> Gertrude!
<Walt> Jack was in TWO Suspense eps
> Scott - Gertrude Gearshift. Sara Berner was Gladys Zybysko.
<ReallyMaxwell> She was also the voice of a lot of the female characters in the WB cartoons (coming full circle).
<Pam D.> The one where he looks so ordinary that he gets away with a bank robbery
<Scott in KC> Anything you say, sweetie. :)
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Bea was also the next door neighbor on Burns and Allen
> Pam - The Face is Familiar
<Kay Lhota> she and Mel Blanc worked together a great deal
> Wow! It's POURING RAIN here!
<Pam D.> Laura ... that's it
<ReallyMaxwell> Blanche Morton.
> Coming down in buckets...
<Steve - "shimp"> Bea was also the original wife in the radio version of Green Acres!
<Scott in KC> 75 here and sunsetting
<Pam D.> Also just heard him do June Moon ... that was a delight
<Steve - "shimp"> with Gale Gordon - "Granby's Green Acres" - very different from the TV show.
> Bea was one of the hardest-working actresses in Hollywood at that time.
<ReallyMaxwell> 60s here and sunny all day...dark now.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> And she was Jethro's Mom, Pearl, in Beverly Hillbillies
<Kay Lhota> Paul Henning wrote that role with Bea in mind
> Speaking of hard-working actresses, Blanche Stewart played Millicent in tonight's show.
<Steve - "shimp"> Mary's really nasty to Millicent!
> Man, if I'm suddenly gone, it's because it's coming down in swimming pools now...
<ReallyMaxwell> Sounds like the storm we had here Wednesday, complete with hail.
<Kay Lhota> yes, she really did a lot of roles in episodes during that period. I was glad to learn about it in my new book (thanks
<Barbara> Maybe we'll get it next, Laura.
> Kay - :)
<Barbara> We had over 3 feet this spring.
<Scott in KC> Laura...This is a tad off Jack Benny topic, but Harlow Wilcox, the MC for Fibber McGee and Molly...There was a
song in the late 60's called "Groovy Grubworm" by Harlow Wilcox and the Oakies. Any conne
<Steve - "shimp"> I've never had more than two!
<Scott in KC> connection?
> Barbara - It must be hard to buy shoes.
<Steve - "shimp"> We don't split up the pairs!
<Barbara> You should have worked on the Benny show, Laura.
> Scott - Beats me. Anyone else know?
<Steve - "shimp"> I think Laura JUST works on the Benny show!
<Kay Lhota> nope. sorry.
> Barbara - Just call me Harry Conn.
<Mike Amo> lol
<Scott in KC> I can see Laura Working for the May Company.
<Barbara> Onlly you're better looking.
> Steve - Some times it feels like that!
<Mike Amo> Laura is already working the switchboard
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> is it 2 or 3 thread hose?
> Scott - is that your way of saying "Don't quit your day job?"
<Steve - "shimp"> Mr. Benny's line is flashing again!
<Scott in KC> Did she take over for Gertrude?
> Barbara - Why thank you *tips straw hat*
<Walt> "A gracious good afternoon, Mr. Benny [snort snort]"
> Hey, I played Gertrude at 39 Forever.
<Scott in KC> You go, Laura, you go!
> Scott - Who, Lily Tomlin?
<Barbara> Just about time for pizza so I'll leave you now. Wish you could all join me. Happy daylight savings time!
<ReallyMaxwell> So long Barbara
> Have a good one, Barbara!
<Kay Lhota> thanks and good pizza Barbara
<Scott in KC> Take care, Barbara.
<Walt> Bye B
<Steve - "shimp"> Didn't "Mabel" get replaced eventually by Doris Singleton?
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Barbara
<Kay Lhota> Doris was Pauline the maid.
<ReallyMaxwell> Laura left a window open.
> Kay - Are you sure?
<Scott in KC> Who played Butterfly?
<Mike Amo> I have to go too...just sent it Laura...I'll catch up later
<Steve - "shimp"> She was a later Pauline - we had this discussion on the forum.
<Kay Lhota> butterfly played Butterfly
<ReallyMaxwell> Bye Mike
<Steve - "shimp"> Doris is still with us, by the way...
<Pam D.> bye Mike
<Walt> Bye Mike
<Mike Amo> Off to Albuquerque! Wheee!
<Scott in KC> Thanks Kay
<Kay Lhota> bye Mike
<Steve - "shimp"> Last surviving radio cast member other than the kids?
<ReallyMaxwell> Who's Albuquerque?
<Walt> Don'e make a wrong turn!
<Scott in KC> Bye Mike
<Scott in KC> Train No. 5...Now leaving for.......
<Kay Lhota> well, if Doris wasn't always Pauline, she certainly was sometimes Pauliner
<Steve - "shimp"> Doris still attends I Love Lucy events, she is 90something!
<Scott in KC> I must have missed it. Who played Rochester's friend Roy?
<Kay Lhota> his name was roy for real, wasn't it?
<Scott in KC> I do not know, Kay.
<Kay Lhota> I tried to look it up a few weeks ago, but I wasn't sure.
<Scott in KC> He has such a mellow voice.
<Pam D.> Well, good night from Chicago, birthplace of someone who's name escapes me.
<Scott in KC> He sounds like Barry White.
<Steve - "shimp"> probably a deliberate contrast to Rochester.
<Kay Lhota> LOL night Pam
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye pam
<ReallyMaxwell> Bye Pam
<Scott in KC> Nighters, Pam.
<Steve - "shimp"> Roch's voice is anything but "mellow"!
<Scott in KC> Rochester's voice sounds like sandpaper against a chalkboard.
<ReallyMaxwell> About as mellow as Andy Devine's
> I'm back.
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Night, Pam
<Steve - "shimp"> Oooh, Andy's is worse.
> Steve - Oh come now...the Sentimental Fellow with the Mellow Bellow?
<Scott in KC> WB LL! :)
<Kay Lhota> Hi Laura. Let's ask: who played Roy, Rochester's buddy?
<Steve - "shimp"> Laura, have you talked to Doris Singleton?
<_bill> Roy Glenn
> Kay - I haven't gotten to those shows quite yet. Ask me in a few months.
> Steve - Nope.
<Kay Lhota> bill says so.
<Scott in KC> Roy Rogers?
> Butterfly McQueen played Butterfly.
<Steve - "shimp"> Just saying she might be the last surviving adult radio cast member.
> _bill - Yes, I remember that name in some of the TV shows. I think you may be right.
> Not to be confused with Glen Glenn.
<Scott in KC> Butterfly sounds like Hooks in the "Police Academy" movies.
<Steve - "shimp"> Or Glenfiddich
> Pauline was played by an actress named Pauline, who also played other roles.
> Or Glen and Glenda
<Kay Lhota> I thought I saw his name come up. My friend Rich mentioned Roy as a character, which is why it stuck so in my
<ReallyMaxwell> Butterfly McQueen is probably most famous for her part in GWTW.
<Walt> It's "Glen or Glensa" ;-)
<Kay Lhota> I saw her in a movie the other day. I wish I could remember what it was.
<Scott in KC> She won an Oscar, didn't she?
<Walt> That's a D not S
<Kay Lhota> no, she didn't win the Oscar.
<Steve - "shimp"> I think there is a pic of Singleton as a replacement "Mabel" on a TV show in the MT&R book - I could be
<ReallyMaxwell> For GWTW? No, that was Hattie McDaniel.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Hattie McDaniel won the Oscar
> Walt - Or Men or Mensa
<Scott in KC> She was nominated?
<Kay Lhota> no
> Maxwell - they were both in it.
<ReallyMaxwell> Prissy was the character best known for saying, "I don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies!"
<Scott in KC> <<< Belongs to Densa.
<Walt> Definitely not Manes -- at least not Mr. Wood...
> Maxwell - You said that really well.
<Kay Lhota> Butterfly McQueen is in "Mildred Pierce" but I'm trying to remember what I saw just the other day
<Walt> Man, I can't taype tonite
> Walt - Get Scotch taype
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Walt washed his hands and he can't do a thing with them
<Steve - "shimp"> Glenfiddich taype
> Glenlivet taype
<Scott in KC> "Taype"? Are you imitating the President, Laura?
<Steve - "shimp"> Glenmorangie, etc.
> Ah, this is where the room gets surreal...
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Steve - Oh, NOW you've got my attention. Madeira or Sherry wood?
<ReallyMaxwell> Not as surreal as the train in this month's episode.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> At least we're not back to Pulp Fiction
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Ellis - LOL
<Scott in KC> This room is ALWAYS surreal.
> Dan and I laughed about that for a couple of weeks.
<Steve - "shimp"> What do I know, I drink with Phil, bottom shelf straight up!
<Walt> Pulp Fiction! Yeah, Shadow, Spider, G-*! Really kool!
<Kay Lhota> Laura, have you been brave enough to listen to "The MAD MAD MAD COMEDIANS?
> Kay - I have to admit no, as I've had a lot on my to do list. Besides, you gave me a transcript.
> I have a giant pile of cassettes to process into the library...hope to do that this week.
<Kay Lhota> I should write up a full one-- that way you'll understand it when you finally do hear it
> Kay - That would be nice, since I haven't heard the metal tunnel audio quality yet.
<Kay Lhota> HUGS LINDA
> Hey Maxwell...did you get my post about Jack's closing theme?
> Kay - ???????
<Kay Lhota> about the metal tunnel
<ReallyMaxwell> If it was today, I haven't checked the board since this morning.
> Kay - I think you're mixing up your chat rooms.
<Kay Lhota> you are a dear.
<ReallyMaxwell> If it was before, yes.
<Steve - "shimp"> What's Mad X 3 Comedians?
<Scott in KC> It was great seeing all of you again. I need to pay some bills and head for bed. Take care, God bless, and
<Kay Lhota> Laura! oops.
<Kay Lhota> Typo
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> She's 2 timing us
> Maxwell - I put it up this morning. You'll see it. The name is "Jefferson Fox I Love You".
<ReallyMaxwell> Bye Scott
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Scott.
> Shalom, Scott!
<ReallyMaxwell> Thank you!
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Mahalo Scott
<Kay Lhota> MA Comedians was an animated special in 1970
<Steve - "shimp"> Just surreal. Don't you see Linda??
<ReallyMaxwell> Bye Scott
<Kay Lhota> I have a bad audio tape of it
<Walt> Beam Scotty up, Us! Wait, that's not right....
> *Singing* I'm not Linda...my name is Laura...
<Steve - "shimp"> By the Rankin/Bass "Rudolph" puppet animators?
> Walt - Were you on the chat the night we recast Star Trek with Benny characters?
<Steve - "shimp"> They also did "Mad Monster Party"
<Kay Lhota> it was cell animated but Rankin Bass
<Walt> No, I missed it.
<Walt> No, I missed it.
<Steve - "shimp"> Interesting. And Jack is in it?
<Kay Lhota> the Groucho Marx sequence is up on the WHYADUCK website
<Walt> Do you have the final cast list?
> Was Fred Allen a Klingon, his arch nemesis
<Kay Lhota> Jack and George Burns do a scene together
<ReallyMaxwell> Somehow I picture Rochester as Scottie.
> Oops...can someone please E-mail me the last 20 lines or so? Thanks.
> Maxwell - I think that's who got it, or possibly Dennis.
<Steve - "shimp"> Laura I'd be happy to oblige but I can't copy the chat for some reason
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Do you think Rochester could cast his hook to the bumper of another starship for transporation?
<Steve - "shimp"> Kay, that's great!
> Steve - Can you click and drag over the chat lines and then Ctrl-C to copy them?
<ReallyMaxwell> If he could drive that Maxwell, he could do anything.
<Steve - "shimp"> If you can't tell, I"m a big B&A fan too.
> Ellis - Lock bumpers with it like they did on the way to Palm Springs (vacuum cleaners).
<ReallyMaxwell> George Burns is the only OTR star I've ever seen live on stage.
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I sent them and the 1st set as well
> Ellis - Thank you! I'll edit it all together later.
<Steve - "shimp"> I sent them but they're in a weird font and now, too late! Thanks for the instructions tho.
> I wish there was a way of capturing the chat, but Volano doesn't have that.
> Steve - Fonts I can fix. Thanks!
<Steve - "shimp"> Maxwell, Me too! Florence Henderson opened for him. That's surreal!
<ReallyMaxwell> Like a real volcano, it obliterates all in its path.
> So what else Benny-wise is on everyone's mind?
<Steve - "shimp"> Laura, I had one to bring up - the Jubilee program!
<Steve - "shimp"> Have you heard these episodes, where Jack and Rochester are on this radio program meant for black GIs?
> Steve - Which I haven't heard in a long time.
<Kay Lhota> what about the Jubilee show
<Steve - "shimp"> I think it would be fascinating to hear Jack & Roch in a context specifically intended toward black audiences
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Someone mentioned Dina Shore earlier. I remember ( as a kid), Jack being on Dinah's 1st show in the 1970's
and presenting her with a sign for her show, and when it was unveiled it said "Liza"
<Steve - "shimp"> Might make up for the Stepin Fetchit bit!
> Steve - We have at least one Jubilee program in the audio library, but I don't remember anything about it.
<Steve - "shimp"> Are any in the library?
<Steve - "shimp"> Answered before I could ask!
> Ellis - Yeah, I have that on tape somewhere.
> I think it's in the CBS tribute to Jack. Yes, it definitely is.
<Kay Lhota> yes it was!
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> I saw it in it aired the first time. It was her daytime show.
<Walt> Lost lines sent, Laura
> Walt - Thank you!
> You know, speaking of race roles...
> There was a role that was apparently excised from the script of tonight's show.
<Walt> Speaking of B&A, Frank Gorshin is touring in Goodnight Gracie. He does a wonderful George, and the script is excellent
<Steve - "shimp"> What was the role, Laura?
<Steve - "shimp"> I've heard good things about the Gorshin show, too Walt
> William Royale was to play both (pardon the terminology) a Chinaman and an Indian in tonight's show. The Chinaman was one
of the guys holding on underneath the train.
<ReallyMaxwell> I'm going to have to take back what I said about George Burns. I saw Red Skelton on stage, too. For some
reason I forget he was on the radio.
<Steve - "shimp"> Was it a Jewish Chinaman?
> But the role had only one or two lines. So I think it may have been done in the East Coast version, and this is the West Coast
<Walt> If anyone has the cahnce, The show is a must-see!
> Maxwell - Come to think of it, I saw both of them, too.
> Steve - No, just a straight Chinaman.
> Walt - I wish it would come to the West Coast.
<ReallyMaxwell> Could have been cut for time constraints.
<Steve - "shimp"> The "ethnic" humor is actually funny when they do the crazy things like the Jewish Indian, IMHO
> Maxwell - Possibly, but it was just like one or two lines.
<Steve - "shimp"> because it is exactly the opposite of "stereotypes"
> Steve - Well said.
<Kay Lhota> indeed
<Walt> And in Branson, Tom Mullica is doing a tribute show to Red Skelton. I haven't seen that one yet, but knowing Tom, it's
probably great too
<Ellis M. Ef'Tee> Well, I need to run. Stuff to do, and places to go.
> Maxwell - I was surprised when I saw it in Jack's script, and was scratching my head that I didn't remember hearing that.
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Ellis
<Kay Lhota> goodnight Ellis
<ReallyMaxwell> I think the final running time was just about 29:30. I was kind of watching near the end.
> Have a good one, Ellis!
<ReallyMaxwell> So long Ellis
<Walt> Bye ellis
> I can't imagine the demands of the SFX on this show.
> When they "cut" to "Chicago", it sounds like a real train station.
<Steve - "shimp"> How much needle-drop as opposed to live SFX were done for the show?
<Kay Lhota> it sounds like a real remote
<ReallyMaxwell> I wonder if they had some stock recordings of train station background, or if somebody went out and recorded
> Steve - Needle-drop was done only occasionally. Now that you mention it, they might have done that in this case.
<Steve - "shimp"> So they had those crazy train whistle gadgets, etc.
> The vast majority of the time it was live stuff.
<Kay Lhota> seems likely, Laura.
<Steve - "shimp"> In pics the SFX spot on stage always looks fairly small
<Steve - "shimp"> That might be after they got Mel though!
<Kay Lhota> LOL Steve
<ReallyMaxwell> How would they do the train wheels on the track when Kenny looks out the window if it wasn't a needle drop?
> When we did the recreation in Waukegan, Ray Erlenborn helped us through a tremendous demand of sound effects. The skit
was Captain Horatio Hornblower.
> So we had ships creaking, wind in the sails, bosun's whistles (which I still have), cannons booming, etc.
<Steve - "shimp"> A great piece to see on SFX is the Disney flick "The Reluctant Dragon" with Robert Benchley
> Sometimes we had to have three hands working the SFX. I'm proud that I did the boat creaking
<Steve - "shimp"> where they show the '40s era "Foley" equipment in detail.
<Walt> Did my wind machine get any use?
> We even had a huge trash can filled with water which was used for the sound of Don going overboard.
<Walt> Foley is for movies, Sound Effects is for radio ;-)
> Walt - Ah yes, I forgot that you had built some of that stuff!
<ReallyMaxwell> I thought Foley was for hospitals.
<Kay Lhota> that must have been so funny to recreate
> Walt - We did. Did you see the pictures of it all in the rehearsal room?
<Walt> Foley is in News Radio
<Steve - "shimp"> My bad!
<Steve - "shimp"> Sorta
> We've replaced the club's regular coffee with Foley crystals...let's see if they notice...
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<Walt> I'm not sure if I saw the pix
<Steve - "shimp"> Since it is a movie they're doing in reluctant dragon
<Walt> Anything like an English Horse?
<ReallyMaxwell> Red Foley?
<Steve - "shimp"> So much easier to slip someone a mickey in the days of Folgers crystals ads.
> Walt - Go to Events, then Waukegan, and look at the Recreation photo galleries. You'll see your stuff.
<Walt> Dave Foley
> The Ziegfeld Foleys
<ReallyMaxwell> Foleys Bergiere
<Walt> Fleys Bergiereeeee
<Walt> too slow
<ReallyMaxwell> Tie goes to the runner. I'm walking.
> Ah, it's FREE ASSOCIATION time in the IJBFC chat room.
<Kay Lhota> Foley's a joly good fellow
> Maxwell - You're going to need a jacket with that tie.
<Steve - "shimp"> Oh, no!
<ReallyMaxwell> I'm looking over a Foleyf clover....
<Walt> It's getting foley deep in here
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<Steve - "shimp"> <sorry he ever brought it up>
<Kay Lhota> I'm laughing so hard my typing's worse than usual.
<ReallyMaxwell> You have a dog named Quat, too?
<Steve - "shimp"> LL - not suitable for family viewing
<Kay Lhota> LOL
> Pardon me while I wipe the tears from my eyes...
> Steve - I knew someone was going to go there...
<ReallyMaxwell> Yeah, Laura, this is pretty painful.
> Maxwell - Well, Jack had a dog named Baskervilles.
<ReallyMaxwell> I hope he was a hound.
<Kay Lhota> I can just hear Andy Devine howling!
> As has often been said in the past, vaudeville is alive and well in the IJBFC chat room.
<Steve - "shimp"> <rimshot>
<Kay Lhota> it has to be hear, as it's alive no where else!
<Kay Lhota> yeesh-- I can't type!
> So...um...what else Benny-wise is on everyone's mind? :)
<Kay Lhota> I've been listening to many of the early episodes
<Walt> That's taype, Keay
> That was no lady, that was Mary Livingstone...oops, did I say that...
> Why a duck?
<Kay Lhota> I heard many this week from the 1938 period
[Sun Apr 03 17:47:27 GMT-08:00 2005] Maxwell: email@example.com
<Kay Lhota> especially the Snow White episodes
> Kay - Oh, those are quite good.
<Maxwell> Hmmm...as I was saying before I was rudely ejected....
<Steve - "shimp"> pretty little birdie (phhffft!)
> And now you know who all the dwarves are, with 39 Forever.
<Maxwell> Benny-wise and pound foolish.
> A Benny saved is a Benny earned.
<Maxwell> A Benny for your thoughts.
<Kay Lhota> Yes, I got 5 and 6 of them
<Steve - "shimp"> I've got 5 or 6 thoughts too.
<Maxwell> Benny Serenade
<Steve - "shimp"> None of them suitable for family viewing either
> Kay - I would have sworn that one of them was Ned Sparks.
<Kay Lhota> I knew Cliff Nazzaro even without the book'
<Kay Lhota> the Grumpy voice
<Walt> A penny saved is a Benny earned
> Benny Rubin
<Maxwell> Benny's from Heaven
> Wait...that's a real name.
<Kay Lhota> the songs were great. Again, Mary's talent impresses me.
<Maxwell> (With apologies to Eddie Jefferson)
> Kay - She really did have it in her at times.
> (Don't put any dirty spins on that comment.)
<Steve - "shimp"> Mary was pretty good with accents and stuff in the earlier shows
<Kay Lhota> I won't.
<Walt> Hey! There's my wind machine!!!
<Kay Lhota> I have a clean mind
<Maxwell> I wouldn't think of it.
> Walt - PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTT!
<Steve - "shimp"> But they seemed to not do that much in the later '40s...
<Kay Lhota> my guess is that she was healthier during her younger years as towards the end of the 40's she was more panic
> Mary did do Mae West take-offs in the occasional Captain O'Benny skit
<Kay Lhota> and probably depressed
<Steve - "shimp"> Right, I recall the Mae West impression.
> Kay - Agreed. I think early on, she didn't have enough stage exposure to be that nervous.
<Steve - "shimp"> So, how much Vaudeville did Mary actually do with Jack?
> Mary did a pretty good Mae West. In fact, she does it on the show we play on tonight's Yesterday USA spot.
<Kay Lhota> 1927 or so, Laura?
> Steve - Some...mainly around the 1928 time frame, after Great Temptations.
> Kay - They were married in 1927, but he was in GT at that time.
<Steve - "shimp"> But was it ever a long-term thing, or did Jack do solo and other partners alternating with Mary?
> She made her radio debut in 1929 with Benny Rubin.
> Steve - Jack did a solo act, but, well, let me group all of this together...
<Steve - "shimp"> OK
> Mary also appeared in Jack's very first screen appearance, "Bright Moments" in 1928. I can never remember her character
name at that time, but it's in the online biography.
> Wow...here comes the rain again, really hard...
> So anyhow...
<Steve - "shimp"> Falling on your head like a memory?
> Listening to the one surviving Bright Moments disc
> Steve - Yeah. KLONK!
> The one surviving disc sounds like the film was mainly Jack's stage act
<Walt> Laurie Leffie, the sky is falling! We must tell the King!
> Unfortunately, Mary isn't in that one. But Jack's doing a monologue, and even Scotch cheap jokes.
> Walt - Hark, I hear the cannons roah. Is it the King approaching?
<Kay Lhota> lol
<Maxwell> Ah, the sophisticated humor of a bygone day....
<Steve - "shimp"> like Johnnie Walker or Sean Connery?
> So Mary was working with him around that time.
<Steve - "shimp"> Whoops Irish
<Walt> Long live the king! Pass the Chung King please
> He did an act in the early 20s where Ned Miller (not to be confused with Ned Sparks) would heckle him from the audience.
<Steve - "shimp"> That's the interesting thing, did she ever actually want to be a performer?
> But as far as I know, Jack didn't share billing in vaudeville, other than the stage shows.
<Steve - "shimp"> Most of what I've seen says she just filled in with Jack when he needed someone to work with...
> Steve - Do you know the story of Mary joining the act originally?
<Steve - "shimp"> Nope, not that I can recall...
> OK, here's the deal. Jack was working with a woman as a "Dumb Dora" character, and she became ill. So Jack asked Mary to
fill in on the role.
> They were touring down the West Coast at the time.
> That would start around Vancouver, then Seattle, Portland, Oakland, San Francisco, etc. moving south week to week.
> So by the time he gets down in California (can't remember which city, it may be in the biography), the regular woman has
recovered and rejoins Jack.
> And he goes on with her and bombs. The theatre manager says to Jack, "We heard from all the managers up north that you
had a dynamite act and partner? What happened?"
<Steve - "shimp"> I guess I did know that in a very non-detailed way.
> Jack said, "That wasn't my regular partner, that was my wife." (Yeah, sounds like a joke.)
<Steve - "shimp"> Mary was a victim of her own success!
> And the managers told Jack, "Dump this dame and bring back your wife." So he did.
> And her appearance on the Benny show was just a one-shot bit role as well.
> But it stuck.
> Wayne King
<Steve - "shimp"> That first radio show doesn't survive, right?
<Kay Lhota> she had natural wit, talent and looks. You have to grant her that.
> Steve - Not Mary's first appearance. Jack's first Canada Dry show does, though.
<Steve - "shimp"> Right, Mary's first is what I meant.
> And when I was at UCLA going through Jack's scripts, I breathlessly turned to the section of the bound scripts that had the
script of that show
<Steve - "shimp"> No, don't say it - gone?
<Maxwell> My first thought.
> waiting to finally see which of the various stories I've heard is true, whether she was just a girl crying in the audience or
whether she is introduced as the President of the Jack Benny Fan Club
> And I turned the tab...
<Maxwell> The suspense is killing me!
> Steve - You called it. GONE. Almost everything else is there. But not that one.
> I don't think
<Steve - "shimp"> Noooooooooo!
> UCLA is used to people rolling around on the floor of their reading room and howling.
<Kay Lhota> poor Laura
> No, I didn't really do that.
<Steve - "shimp"> Is this Jack's personal collection at UCLA?
<Kay Lhota> but you felt like doing it, I know!
> But I did sit stoop-shouldered and looking very desolate at the table for a few minutes.
> Steve - That's it.
> Kay - I was doing it in my head.
<Steve - "shimp"> So, the going conspiracy theory is...?
> Steve - What, as to what happened to the script?
<Steve - "shimp"> Grassy Knoll, Mary in a fit of pique, and a careless Joan Benny ice cream cone?
<Steve - "shimp"> Yep, that's what I'm getting at LL
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<Maxwell> If it was originally there, my guess is that some "collector" "liberated" it.
> I say they (Jack, Bert, etc.) pulled it for reference and it never got put back where it should.
> Harry Baldwin was a great secretary and very orderly about these things.
<Kay Lhota> that makes good sense
> I'm deeply hoping that going through some boxes of miscellaneous papers will lead me to it.
<Maxwell> Good luck!
> Maxwell - I don't think that's likely, at least not through the regular UCLA procedures.
<Kay Lhota> Harry Baldwin was Jack Benny's secretary?
> Most special collections reading rooms don't let you bring in much.
> Kay - Yes.
<Steve - "shimp"> Maybe it was a bad episode, a bad Benny always turns up.
> Boston won't even let you sit with your coat draped over the back of your chair. You wear it or it's in the locker outside.
<Steve - "shimp"> <curse all your punning ways!>
<Kay Lhota> I'm still in shock that he was the man at the door with the goofy jokes!
<Maxwell> Believe it or not, though, Laura, that's exactly what happened to the official score book of the first official baseball
game ever played.
> Kay - Yup! Jack had a lot of great comedic performers, even in the people behind the scenes.
<Kay Lhota> They would be stiffs in Boston, wouldn't they?
> Maxwell - No kidding!
<Maxwell> Somebody walked out of the NY Public Library with it.
<Maxwell> Of course that was only two pages.
> Kay - Oh, don't bash my pals in Boston. I'm having lunch with the department later this month.
<Kay Lhota> I live near Boston!
> Maxwell - Some places are tighter than others on their security.
> I'm going to Laramie shortly, so I'll let you know how they are.
<Walt> I passed thru Boston.
> Walt - You're dead?
<Walt> No wait, that was Baltimore
<Kay Lhota> LOL
<Steve - "shimp"> What's in Laramie Bennywise?
<Walt> LL, whach character was Harry?
> Steve - Joan donated a bunch of papers there. I've got their inventory, but I'm going there to find out. Lots of financial records,
but I'm more interested in the clippings and contracts.
<Kay Lhota> Laura, I was just remembering many years ago when I waited for an hour in special collections for the book "My
Wonderful World of Slapstick" by Buster Keaton
<Steve - "shimp"> Any particular reason for Laramie?
> Walt - The door guy in the 1930s. The guy who'd knock on the door, Jack would say, "Come in," and he'd say, "Mr. Benny?"
"Yes" then say something silly.
<Kay Lhota> which couldn't leave the premises, but they didn't have the book
> Steve - They paid all the expenses of the transfer.
> Kay - That was at the BPL?
<Kay Lhota> yes, but that was in 1978
<Kay Lhota> many years ago
> Kay - It's a whole other world there now. Much, much, much better.
<Walt> I thouth that was one of the writers...
<Kay Lhota> things may be better now
> Walt - Who, Baldwin?
<Steve - "shimp"> LL - have you been to Phil Harris & Alice Faye's archive in Indiana (?)
<Kay Lhota> his bits are really cute. I began to really look forward to them, and wish I knew for sure who he was.
> Steve - Not yet. Probably one of these days.
> Kay - I get asked about him from time to time. I have some photos of him with Jack. He was a really tall, bald-headed guy.
<Walt> The guy at the door. I guess it was later -- the psychotic door knocker
<Steve - "shimp"> I saw somewhere they actually had some kind of little basement museum or exhibit, just wondering if it was
worth a stop in
<Steve - "shimp"> on a road trip sometime.
> Walt - You may be confusing it with Mr. Billingsley, which was done by Ed Beloin.
> Steve - I haven't seen it, and somewhere I have the contact information for the main curator. But it's a lower priority on my list.
<Walt> Yes, that's him. Ed...
> I want to visit the big metropolises like...Laramie...
<Maxwell> Ananheim, Azusa, Cucamonga....
<Steve - "shimp"> Hmm..if I'm tooling through the cornfields this summer sometime I'll let you know.
<Walt> Where in India is the PH archive?
> Steve - Please do. I wouldn't want to go all the way there and discover that it's the equivalent of the Dan Quayle museum in
<Steve - "shimp"> Sri Lanka!
<Maxwell> New Delhi.
<Kay Lhota> Altoona
<Walt> Dr Bombay?!?!?
<Steve - "shimp"> Doo Wah Ditty, Punjab province
<Maxwell> Part of the collection is on loan to Bombay.
> Steve - LOL
<Walt> Ahh, of course!
<Steve - "shimp"> Seriously can't remember, near Phil's hometown.
> They love me in New Dehli...
> Crud...I know the answer...just can't say it...
<Maxwell> While you're at the New Delhi, pick me up a corned beef on rye.
> *Throwing tomatoes*
<Walt> I just hear a rock song that souded like a remake of Doo Wah Ditty -- couldn't tell if it was a remake or inspired...
> I was driving from Chicago to Grand Rapids a few years ago and heard a modern recording called "That's What I Like About the
North"...it was a direct take-off.
<Maxwell> Lox and cream cheese on an onion bagle?
> Linton. Linton Indiana.
<Steve - "shimp"> That's IT!
<Walt> That must have been it, Laura
> See, just to be philosophical for a second....look at us all jumping on punch lines for the thing about where in India is Phil's
<Steve - "shimp"> I got a Phil album for a buck the other day, you can't listen and not smile
<Steve - "shimp"> Instant cure for a bad mood.
> That's something I always enjoy about this room. Not only do we enjoy comedy, but a lot of people here have some unrequited
aspirations around the creation of comedy.
> And that's one of the big things that makes this room very fun. At least for me.
> OK, serious mode off. Where's my cream pie...
<Maxwell> Well, as Go-Go the Dodo once said, "Lame puns are pound for pound your best entertainment value."
<Steve - "shimp"> If you listen to enough Jack Benny - it's a reflex action!
<Walt> I wish Phil's version of "I'm My Own Grandpaw" was not a "I knew a man who..." type. It looses something in that form
<Steve - "shimp"> Blueberry pie, as Phil would have it.
> Steve - Sweet potato pie
> That's what I like about the South
> Ham hocks and turnip greens...
> You ought to taste her layer cake-ee...
<Steve - "shimp"> There actually is an episode where Jack is going to be absent, and Phil has a routine all set up with a
> Sorry, just in lyric free association there.
<Steve - "shimp"> to someone's face
<Steve - "shimp"> And Jack says, well, Phil, in vaudeville it was always a cream pie
<Steve - "shimp"> And Phil says, I know, I improved it!
> Jack's eyes were bluer than the chin of the winner of a
huckleberry pie-eating contest.
> With a sweater....
<Steve - "shimp"> Was Baskerville's first name Huckleberry?
> Steve - Don't hound me about that.
> He had a slave named Jim
> And another named Topsy.
> or was it Jam
<Maxwell> Hmmm...just as Baskerville's name came up, my beagle stopped
outside the door and starting
licking his paws.
> Jim Jam Jemmmm...
<Kay Lhota> with the jumping jive
> Maxwell - Maybe trying to get that blueberry pie off...
<Maxwell> Could be...
> Steve - That must be awfully annoying.
> Not if you don't have a dog!
> Just think how it used to sound when a dial-up connection was handshaking.
> Mine just waves from afar....
> on the slow creaky computer tonight
> Maxwell knows how that is...
<Walt> After handshaking does the computer need a wipe?
<Maxwell> Uh-huh...especially after it rains.
> So, well, what else Benny-wise would folks like to discuss?
> Walt - You're thinking of something else...like a core dump...
> Shoot, LL - I'm all out of topics for the moment...
<Walt> Ewwww! Messy
<Kay Lhota> I'm going to say goodnight, gang. It's been a joy.
<Maxwell> Whatever I don't think of here, I'll bug people on the message boards.
<Maxwell> G'night Kay
<Kay Lhota> carry on
<Steve - "shimp"> Bye Kay.
<Kay Lhota> bye
> Night Kay!
<Walt> Say goodnight, Kracie
> Argh...need the last screen page again.
<Kay Lhota> goodnight George
> anything else, or should we call it good for April?
<Maxwell> My brain is totally fried, so I'm good for the month.
<Walt> On it's way LL
> Thanks, Walt.
<Steve - "shimp"> Sent you the last page LL, and let's call it good. Daylight Saving has us messed up
<Steve - "shimp"> Good chatting with you all!
> Got it. Well, thanks for everyone staying so long!
<Maxwell> I'll be messed up for a week after the time change.
<Maxwell> G'night everybody!
> Hope to see you again next month!
<Steve - "shimp"> Night!
<Walt> Daylight Savings? Is there a new bank in town?
> We're a little late folks...so goodnight...
<Steve - "shimp"> Now cut that out!