Mike wrote:Although not one the longest running shows, The Honeymooners is certainly one of the most revered by many. Today where I work I saw very briefly an ad on the side of a bus for a new Honeymooners show with an all black cast. I don't know if it's a movie or a TV show. I was in a hurry and didn't have time to look closely. Oh.... where did I see it? In the bus yard. I'm a transit bus driver, (but definitely NOT a Ralph clone THANK YOU!! - although I assure you that there ARE many Ralph clones driving buses). LOL! Mike
They Honeymooners was only a stand-alone series for one season (1955?) when Gleason got tired of doing a live one-hour variety show every week. (Indirect Benny connection here: Gleason's announcer during the first incarnation of his variety show was Jack Lescoulie.) The Honeymooners started even before Gleason's CBS show on DuMont's "Cavalcade of Stars" (I think I have the title right) with Pert Kelton as Alice.
It's probably a good thing the half hour show didn't last much longer because the other half hour was occupied by the Gleason-produced Stage Show (the show that first inflicted Elvis Presley on an unsuspecting TV audience) hosted by Tommy and Jimmy Dorsey who died in 1956 and 1957 respectively. That would have been a sure ratings killer.
When the second incarnation of Gleason's variety show was cancelled, I think he tried a half-hour show for awhile, and I don't think the Honeymooners appeared on it, but I have little recollection of it, and then was off the air for a year or two. CBS was saddled with something like a 30-year contract with him (NBC was stuck witht he same kind of deal with Milton Berle), so they put Gleason in one of the most infamous shows in the history of television: "You're in the Picture" which lasted a grand total of one episode.
There was good reason for that. It was terrible. I saw that one episode, and I vowed, or maybe my parents told me, to never watch it again. Unfortunately that made us miss the famous "apology" show where Gleason spent the half hour confessing his sins for appearing on such a fiasco while drinking a cup of "tea."
That got him an interview show for the rest of the season. I think that led to "Jackie Gleason's American Scene Magazine," a new hour variety show without the Honeymooners (see I didn't forget what I was writing about) for the first few seasons.
The Honeymooners were back when the show again became the Jackie Gleason Show, with only Art Carney from the original group. IIRC the start was the series of musical episodes where the Kramdens and Nortons won a trip around the world or something like that.
Not long before he died, Gleason found film (kinescopes, I assume) of the Honeymooners episodes from the '50s and released them to television as "the lost episodes."