Pronunciation of the word 'valet'

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Pronunciation of the word 'valet'

Postby likewow » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:24 pm

I was wondering why people in the forties pronounced this word 'val-it' instead of 'val-ay' like we do now. I've heard this pronunciation on several series. I kind of like the old pronunciation better :D
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Re: Pronunciation of the word 'valet'

Postby Yhtapmys » Mon Jan 28, 2008 9:31 pm

likewow wrote:I was wondering why people in the forties pronounced this word 'val-it' instead of 'val-ay' like we do now.


Certainly not in Canada they didn't.

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Postby Moose Hatrack » Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:36 am

It may be the British pronunciation. British fans of PG Wodehouse often identify the superhuman butler Jeeves as Bertie Wooster's val-it.
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Postby JohnM » Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:16 pm

Jack also said "drama" to rhyme with Alabama. And I think I heard him say "concerto" with an "s" sound for the second "c".

Finally, the way they all said "violin" is weird too, with the accent on the first syllable.
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Postby shimp scrampi » Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:19 am

Another thing that tweaks my modern ears is the all-over-the-place 1930s-1940s pronunciation of "Los Angeles" before it had settled down to the common current Americanized form. Los Angle-Less, Loss Angle-leez, Loss Anjeleez, etc. No wonder people gave up and just called it "L.A."!
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Postby Jhammes » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:14 am

Not to mention, Manische-wi-wi-witz.
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What is it?

Postby krledu » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:12 pm

Not to mention, Manische-wi-wi-witz.


That is the one that Bob Crosby fluffed. What is it anyway?
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Postby Roman » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:26 pm

Man-o-Manischewitz, what a wine!
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Re: What is it?

Postby Mister Kitzel » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:34 am

krledu wrote:
Not to mention, Manische-wi-wi-witz.


That is the one that Bob Crosby fluffed. What is it anyway?


It is a kosher wine. In one of the Jack Benny biographies there is a mention that the product's sales went up after being mentioned on the radio program. (Who would have guessed?!)
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Postby scottp » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:09 am

Not sure if I've heard this in Benny shows, but in some other programs I've heard them describing a car as a "coo-PAY' rather than a "coop". And I've heard a lot of Kraft shows lately, with Ken Carpenter talking about "protie-en" rather than "pro-teen." And in early sci-fi shows, some of the tasks are performed by "robuts" not "ro-bots".
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Postby Jack Benny » Sat Mar 22, 2008 6:57 pm

Don often talks about a diner menu, and pronounces it with a long a sound for the e - maine -u.
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Words, Words...

Postby Jhammes » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:15 am

Somewhat related: how words and expressions change, and tweak the modern ears...

In "Sunday Nights At Seven", Jack gives his view on Nielsen viewers and ratings, and comments how "Television is free and available at the twist of a knob..."

When was the last time anyone had to "twist a knob"?
(Or, for that matter, when anyone had "free" television?)
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Postby Mister Kitzel » Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:44 am

"Twisting knobs" is a common enough phrase used by people working with audio mixing consoles.

I do not have cable, so anything I watch has to be "free" television.

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Postby Yhtapmys » Wed Mar 26, 2008 7:48 pm

Mister Kitzel wrote:"Twisting knobs" is a common enough phrase used by people working with audio mixing consoles.


I doubt it. Boards have had sliders for years.

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Postby Mister Kitzel » Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:26 am

Yhtapmys wrote:
Mister Kitzel wrote:"Twisting knobs" is a common enough phrase used by people working with audio mixing consoles.


I doubt it. Boards have had sliders for years.

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Actually it is a combination. The equalizer section of a tradtional mixing console is an array of knobs. Effects are controlled with knobs. The only function controlled with sliding faders are the volume outputs for each channel.

Newer digital mixing consoles have an array of buttons instead of knobs, but touring companies are now avoiding digital consoles after some disasters with them.
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